lvl 17 protection prayers = -2 energy Prot spirit? - Guild Wars Forums

Jezter14 · Nov 22, 2005, 05:44 AM // 05:44

Is this still possible?
I tried over and over with my monk and could not get the energy loss to be
-2 per hit?

Tks.

Lasareth · Nov 22, 2005, 05:45 AM // 05:45

It is not.

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 22, 2005, 05:59 AM // 05:59

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Originally Posted by Lasareth

It is not.

Right =)

--The Shim

Yichi · Nov 22, 2005, 06:22 AM // 06:22

Technicalyl it can..

healing prayers scalp, sup healing, staff or anythign with mod to healing prayers, max healing atts = 17. but even at max percent you have a 1 in 10 chance of actually hitting it, so yeah basically not probbable, but technically possible

Lasareth · Nov 22, 2005, 06:23 AM // 06:23

Yes you can reach 17, but it has no effect on Protective Bond's energy caveat. Still -3 per hit.

There's no way to reach level 18, so we don't know what happens there.

Pharalon · Nov 22, 2005, 06:45 AM // 06:45

It'll hit 2 energy at 18 prot

Jezter14 · Nov 22, 2005, 08:18 AM // 08:18

tks for the input guys. And MistressYichi tks for your input but we're talkin protection prayers here, i'm not sure what thread you are in lol.

Hockster · Nov 22, 2005, 09:05 AM // 09:05

The skill description say -3 to -6. I'd need to see a screenie of a -2 post nerf.

Pharalon · Nov 22, 2005, 10:41 AM // 10:41

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Originally Posted by Hockster

The skill description say -3 to -6. I'd need to see a screenie of a -2 post nerf.

Don't need a screenie. All skills are clamped at 0 and 15 (ie they're always whole numbers at those values). From there you can work out any of the breakpoints, keeping in mind things always round to the closest whole number.

Pevil Lihatuh · Nov 22, 2005, 12:12 PM // 12:12

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Originally Posted by Hockster

The skill description say -3 to -6. I'd need to see a screenie of a -2 post nerf.

lol even in-game these aren't always accurate. Mainly when I capture a wilderness survival skill on my ranger, it'll say e.g. 'does 5...12 secs poison damage' then when I cap and equip it, it'll say 13 secs poison... and thats only 12 wilderness survival.

Azn D · Nov 22, 2005, 12:19 PM // 12:19

lowest you can get it to is -2 per hit. Maybe if you find a +1 20% wand or something, if thats possible. With that you probably have to get them both at the same time. Then just maybe 02 per hit

darkMishkin · Nov 22, 2005, 02:08 PM // 14:08

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Originally Posted by Pharalon

Don't need a screenie. All skills are clamped at 0 and 15 (ie they're always whole numbers at those values). From there you can work out any of the breakpoints, keeping in mind things always round to the closest whole number.

We keep getting told that GW truncates instead of rounds, meaning 9.9996 = 9.
So in this case -2.99996 = -2?

msihkin

Pharalon · Nov 22, 2005, 02:28 PM // 14:28

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Originally Posted by darkMishkin

We keep getting told that GW truncates instead of rounds, meaning 9.9996 = 9.
So in this case -2.99996 = -2?
msihkin

Damage gets truncated, skill variables get rounded. Damage doesn't actually get truncated, just the display of it does. In this case, each level of Protective Bond reduces the energy cost by 0.2, so at 17 the energy cost is 2.6 which will round to 3, while at 18 it will cost 2.4, which will round to 2.

darkMishkin · Nov 22, 2005, 04:09 PM // 16:09

Great explanation Pharalon, thanks

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Originally Posted by Pharalon

Damage doesn't actually get truncated, just the display of it does.

If I have 2hp, and someone attacks me for 1.6 damage, it will display as a -1 over my head? But will my health get truncated down from 0.4 to 0?
Will I die?

msih

Yichi · Nov 22, 2005, 05:03 PM // 17:03

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Originally Posted by Jezter14

tks for the input guys. And MistressYichi tks for your input but we're talkin protection prayers here, i'm not sure what thread you are in lol.

sorry i ment protection prayers. i was half asleep when i posted that.

Scorpion Boy · Nov 22, 2005, 05:07 PM // 17:07

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Originally Posted by darkMishkin

Great explanation Pharalon, thanks

If I have 2hp, and someone attacks me for 1.6 damage, it will display as a -1 over my head? But will my health get truncated down from 0.4 to 0?
Will I die?

msih

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! scary question...and a good one and....nvm

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 22, 2005, 07:12 PM // 19:12

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Originally Posted by darkMishkin

Great explanation Pharalon, thanks

If I have 2hp, and someone attacks me for 1.6 damage, it will display as a -1 over my head? But will my health get truncated down from 0.4 to 0?
Will I die?

msih

You're absolutely right. IT truncates downward if you have 2hp and hits for 1.6, you suffer -1 and are dropped to 1 life. Simple as that. As least, in my experience as a warrior, damage truncates down to the nearest whole number. No, you will not die, as you really only suffered 1 damage.

As for directly linking to this spell, I'm not quite sure. It might be as pharalon suggested; and then again I've never really been at 2 life for this scenario to happen, so I can't give accurate results.

--The Shim

DarkSider84 · Nov 22, 2005, 10:34 PM // 22:34

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Originally Posted by darkMishkin

Great explanation Pharalon, thanks

If I have 2hp, and someone attacks me for 1.6 damage, it will display as a -1 over my head? But will my health get truncated down from 0.4 to 0?
Will I die?

msih

Yes you will die.

Tactical-Dillusions · Nov 22, 2005, 10:57 PM // 22:57

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Originally Posted by Pevil Lihatuh

lol even in-game these aren't always accurate. Mainly when I capture a wilderness survival skill on my ranger, it'll say e.g. 'does 5...12 secs poison damage' then when I cap and equip it, it'll say 13 secs poison... and thats only 12 wilderness survival.

This might be because it doesn't take into account any runes/upgrades etc

Jezter14 · Nov 23, 2005, 12:03 AM // 00:03

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Originally Posted by Azn D

lowest you can get it to is -2 per hit. Maybe if you find a +1 20% wand or something, if thats possible. With that you probably have to get them both at the same time. Then just maybe 02 per hit

Good point, i was thinkin the same thing. Now is there a wand or sword or something that can give protection +1? ALong with the protection prayers +1 protective icon of course.

Nov 22, 2005, 05:44 AM // 05:44	#1
Jezter14 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Profession: W/Mo	lvl 17 protection prayers = -2 energy Prot spirit? Is this still possible? I tried over and over with my monk and could not get the energy loss to be -2 per hit? Tks.

Nov 22, 2005, 05:45 AM // 05:45	#2
Lasareth Aquarius Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place	It is not.

Nov 22, 2005, 06:22 AM // 06:22	#4
Yichi Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match... Guild: Dark Alley [dR]	Technicalyl it can.. healing prayers scalp, sup healing, staff or anythign with mod to healing prayers, max healing atts = 17. but even at max percent you have a 1 in 10 chance of actually hitting it, so yeah basically not probbable, but technically possible

Nov 22, 2005, 06:23 AM // 06:23	#5
Lasareth Aquarius Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place	Yes you can reach 17, but it has no effect on Protective Bond's energy caveat. Still -3 per hit. There's no way to reach level 18, so we don't know what happens there.

Nov 22, 2005, 06:45 AM // 06:45	#6
Pharalon Beta Tester Join Date: Jan 2005 Guild: Carebear Club	It'll hit 2 energy at 18 prot

Nov 22, 2005, 08:18 AM // 08:18	#7
Jezter14 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Profession: W/Mo	tks for the input guys. And MistressYichi tks for your input but we're talkin protection prayers here, i'm not sure what thread you are in lol.

Nov 22, 2005, 09:05 AM // 09:05	#8
Hockster Banned Join Date: Jul 2005	The skill description say -3 to -6. I'd need to see a screenie of a -2 post nerf.

Nov 22, 2005, 12:19 PM // 12:19	#11
Azn D Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: DMV Profession: R/	lowest you can get it to is -2 per hit. Maybe if you find a +1 20% wand or something, if thats possible. With that you probably have to get them both at the same time. Then just maybe 02 per hit